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the fulton county election case has just resigned. will trump face a criminal trial before the election? plus could a button on the back of a boeing seven at seven co*ckpit chair lead to a jet plunging in mid-air, causing bodies to go flying into the roof will outbound has obtained the pilot's manual with revealing details about that very chair. and we will speak to a pilot. was flown that plane hundreds of times. and she's south dakota governor on trump's list of possible running mates. so why is she selling up shoe inserts and dental work? let's go out front >> and good evening. i'm erin burnett out front tonight. the breaking news, the trump trials in complete chaos at this hour, a new york judge just ruling that the start of donald trump's criminal hush money trial is now delayed. as the lead attorney on trump's georgia election interference case has resigned tonight. so on the hush money case, let's start there. the trial had been set to start this month, ten

days from now in march 25. and now the judge says, well, it likely won't start before even mid-april, and that comes after a dispute between trump's defense team and prosecutors over documents in the case. >> the delay >> playing directly into trump's self-declared strategy in all his legal cases we want delays, obviously, i'm running for election >> obviously, he's running for election. so wants delays end. he doesn't want verdicts here. he doesn't want people to see this and he's concerned what voters will see and hear in his legal cases during the closed days of the election. and a huge reason for concern an is the georgia case. now, uh, judges just ruled that district attorney fani willis can stay on the case or lead prosecutor has to go, but fani willis stays in place. and that case will be televised live nationally which means that voters will see everything that happens before election day. evidence witnesses, maybe even trump himself that will be

broadcast daily while americans are deciding who to vote for. as early voting is open. and if fani willis gets her way, that trial will still start on august 5th that's exactly three months before election day. willis, i said she believes the trial could conclude in the very early part of 2025, which would be right around the time trump is sworn in if he's elected. so the real question becomes, how quickly can the georgia case move forward without the top prosecutor, nathan wade, because he is forced to resign. so fani willis up on top, she stays in plays, but he has to leave and trump and his co-defendants that accused willis, of course, of profiting from her now ex-boyfriend, nathan wade and immediately after this decision, the fani willis got to stay on the case. trump's campaign quickly fundraising off the judge's decision today, sending the message to supporters, quote fani willis, can continue the which and against me rigged system against us >> and then of >> course, links to donate money. paula reid is out front

and washington and polo. what more are you learning about these delays in trump's legal calendar which have such huge significance in these months before election day aaron, it's incredible right now, there is not one firm trial date for former president trump ahead of the november election. and as you just said, this has been his strategy, but it's not just as lawyers who are achieving this. he's good lot of help from prosecutors and judges in delaying these cases. let's take what's going on in new york, the hush money case at the district attorney's frame coming. it's an election interference case. that was the only case that was definitely expected to go before november. now, the judge ever seen that case on the day it was supposed to start in ten days. it's going to hold a hearing to figure out why federal prosecutors just handed over tens of thousands of pages of new evidence and he may move the trial. then we look at the january 6 election subversion case. there the supreme court has that case on pause while they consider whether trump has immunity. aaron, they were asked by the special counsel to resolve that issue months ago.

so this case could go forward. now, their decision probably won't come until june and then they need to give lawyer several months to prepare for that case. remember, this case doesn't go before november and trump is reelected. he can make both federal cases go away. the other federal case, classified documents i was in court two weeks ago when the judge heard arguments about pushing that back. we still don't have a new date. and lastly, the case we've been talking about all day down in georgia, fani willis, head originally said she wanted to do this in august. a lot of folks thought that was ambitious given the scope of this case. but then these proceedings to possibly disqualify her this has pushed the case back, so her decision devil romantic relationship with the lead prosecutor helped trump delay this here, even though she was found not to have an actual conflict right now is unclear when that case will go again, this is an astonishing victory for the former president, but it's not his alone. he's getting a lot of help from the system certainly is and others, others poor decisions. they said, you always are your own worst enemy. i, paula, thank you very much. and i want to go now to

gerald griggs, president of the georgia nwa cp. he has been friends with fani willis for 26 years. they worked together at the atlantic the city solicitors office. it's also been friends with nathan wade for 16 years and gerald, i appreciate your time so you know, both of them very well. i know you had a chance to speak with nathan wade after his resignation today on the back of judge mcafee decision, what did he tell you? >> he told me he's going to continue to practice law and continued to do justice in the state of georgia. and he's excited about the next chapter of his life. >> was he prepared for the judge to rule the way he did. and does he feel this was fair >> well, we had a person conversation. it wasn't about that particular aspect of this whole endeavor. he's resolute and continuing to practice law and continued to do justice for the citizens of georgia >> so the judge in his ruling, gerald, talking about your friend fani willis he said she showed a quote, tremendous lapse in judgment. that's the

quote from the judge that she acted unprofessionally. now, look, you've known for a long time, you don't have more than 25 years, do you know whether she has any regrets about the decision she made and how she handled all of this i've no fani a long time. i've known her to uphold the highest standards for the practice of law and for her personal life. and i think that she will continue to uphold those standards as she has in the past. i think fani is focused on trying this case, and although the cases in fulton county and i think that's her focus so the judge warned of the potential gerald of a future gag order against willis because of these specific comments that she made at church. let me play them one white me broome match-winning in a great boom. in ohio. one black man, another superstar a great friend and a great boy.

>> oh >> lord, they don't be mad when i'm on my own first thing. they say oh, she gone play the race card. now. but no the judge actually joked specifically called those comments legally improper and any is rolling. he said the time may well have arrived for an order preventing the state from mentioning the case in any public forum. to prevent prejudicial publicity. but that is not the motion presently before the court, which seems to be at least an opening, if not an invitation for there to be such an invitation. gerald, what's your reaction when you hear with the judges saying and you hear what your friend has said i think my friend was oh, pining on the decisions that are being made around this case. and i think she was also stating and pushing back on the attacks by politicians. i think

the judge, if he's old pining, issuing a gag order, the gag order should be on all parties because there's not just the prosecutor's office that is talking that's not just the defendants that are talking is not just the judge who is talking. so i think to avoid the appearance of any impropriety, if he's thinking about issuing a gag order, it should begins. all parties so we can get to the actual disposition of this case in the four walls of a courtroom and i want to ask you one other thing, gel before we go, nathan wade and your conversation. obviously, if he's being replaced, someone has to come in, get up to speed. obviously, the da a fani willis being in position makes a difference, but someone else has to come in. she had tried to hire multiple people, four. she actually hired nathan wade. >> did he give any indication to you about how long he thinks it's going to take people to get up to speed. what position the case situation of the case is in whether they've had their eyes so much focused on this entire embroil leo, about their relationship and the judge that they haven't had chance to focus on the case, did he give you any information there?

>> no, but i've known ms willis for a long time. she's one of the best prosecutors in the state of georgia, and she's a trial attorney. and so i think that she would have no problem getting up to speed and trying this case herself. she's tried the longest rico case in georgia history. this one is no different, so i don't think it's going to take any additional time for anyone to get up to speed she has her team, she has some of the best lawyers in the state and she is one of the best lawyers in the state. >> gerald griggs. thank you so much. i really appreciate your taking the time and sharing this with me. >> thank you for having me. all right. thank you. and so now let's go to ryan goodman are out front legal analysts and michael isacoff, who has spent extensive time with willis and her team for his new book, find me the votes. hard charging georgia prosecutor, rogue, president, and the plot to steal an american election >> so >> ryan, you heard what darryl just said >> this is his view >> of his friends at fani willis knows what's going on to try this herself with her rico experience, that there would be no reason to indicate that this would cause a delay.

>> her remaining >> on nathan wade being removed. >> how do you see it? and what happens here that august 5th date is still technically her latest request for the trial >> so don't think it changes the baseline, which is that we might very well get the date of august 5 as the start. she wears already ready to go to trial with others who instead decided to plead guilty. and so our august 5th might be the start date then in terms of the nuts and bolts, it'll be about seating a jury in the past, it has taken a long time in georgia to seat a jury in a rico case, but those that other case was different in this case, you might actually have the problem of people actually wanting to serve on the jury because it's such an historic case that might go a little bit more quickly, but even by her own standards or what she has said today, we're expectations, the trial will go until after the election. neil and to be a verdict after the election, even if she gets her sorry. >> so you may see those some of the visuals i've it before, but important that what you're saying is that removing the lead prosecutor, you're agreeing with gerald's assessment, at least it doesn't necessarily that in and

of itself does not mean that delay i think that's right. >> i think a lot of the work has already been done and they've got a lot more time to prepare for august 5th. all right. so um, that michael i know you are really watching the next few weeks as an indicator for how quickly the judge, the judge gets this case back on track, right? >> sure. and it's going to be really important to see how judge mcafee he rules from here. does he tried to get this case back on track, tried to set a trial date very soon and also whether the defense lawyers, the trump lawyers, are going to try to appeal this ruling. it's interesting in their comments today, both steve sadow, the trump lawyer, and ashleigh merchant, the lawyer for michael roman, who brought the motion to begin with, did not say specifically that they're going to try to appeal, so they may realize this is it. and now we're going to pivot to the actual case in mind and i think that's that,

was one takeaway from the responses today. >> another thing ryan that stood out to me was judge mcafee is reference to the georgia bar and the obviously the bar association in a state is the police for lawyers in the state would have the ability to disbar somebody or to punish them in other ways. and there our other investigations going on here. so even even separate from the appeal point that michael just raised, is this really just clear sailing or is it possible that there are punishments that come along for fani willis here, the do derail this in these next few months i think the next few minutes are going to see a number of different institutions in georgia reviewing fani willis and nathan wade, the judge almost invited that too. he listed out all the institutions, including the georgia state bar and i can't imagine that somebody going to take up that invitation. it just takes a group of lawyers to file an ethics complaint. same thing happened to bill barr when he was us attorney hey, journal in summer of 2020. it can happen to a funny well, it says a

district attorney and in the court's opinion, he also says that there's an odor of mendacity remains and refers to her testimony and rivers to nathan wade's testimony and odor of mendacity. that's the exact quote and odor of mendacity. so that is an invitation to somebody to bring up an ethics charge. >> if i have the next search online yes michael? >> yeah. >> well, i just wanted to correct ryan, their the odor of mendacity quote, which is in that opinion and obviously lip out at everybody. if you read it closely, he's not referring to fani willis testimony. it comes right after he's talking about terrence bradley, the lawyer who was supposed to be the star our witness for the trump lawyers. and he says, you can't credit anything he had to say. he takes shots and nathan wade for it misrepresenting on his interrogatories, but he never specifically says that fani willis gave testimony that that he does not believe or that was contradicted but i just want to make one central point or two central points

before you do that, before you do that, i want to give ryan a chance to respond because it's pulled up over odor of mendacity >> yeah. sorry to do this, but the paragraph begins an eardrum remains. the paragraph continues reasonable questions about whether the district attorney and her hand-selected lead sad a testified untruthfully about the timing of their relationship further underpin the finding of an appearance of impropriety on their part. that's a direct reference. >> it's not a finding by him and he does. >> but this one is pneumonia. is obviously a reference to her i have not read it that way. i think it can be interpreted differently, but in any case, the really important thing here is that this case is going to go to trial. it may not be before the election. if donald trump is elected president, he will probably not be on trial in fulton county. but what's important? is everybody else will and this is the only case in which all the enablers of

donald trump, all the confederates, all the coconspirators have been charged criminally, and they will have to go on trial for mark meadows to john eastman, to rudy giuliani. you can go on all the list they will be almost certainly on trial even if donald trump is on serving as president and ryan, a quick response to that, and it will be televised in these cases, right? so if it's trump, but also others, so we, we, the voters will see all of this 100% and this is the only case that will be nationally televised. the federal cases will not, and the new york case will not. this will have a national audience everyday. that's, it's before the trial, and it will be those days leading into the election, possibly if she gets she gets what she wants in the trial date. all right. thanks so much to both of you. and next it out front investigation, the texas governor greg abbott says, donate not public money is being used to pass the migrants to blue states, but that does not add up

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number of migrants. texas governor greg abbott has bused across the country to democratic-led cities like new york, chicago, and washington dc. tonight we have an outfront investigation into a website abid predicted would save taxpayers from having to flip the bill hello, for this program, he claimed there'll be so much interest that he could pay for it with donations in fact, years, what governor abbott said when the busing program started if people across the country are so eager to participate in this we should put a website link up and let them participate in as soon as we do that the donations have come in >> it turns out that was not true. kang law is out front >> did you give this program $2,000? >> how know for sure not i wouldn't give a cent to any officers racist policies that he is standing for he's referring to texas governor greg abbott abbott's office has bused more than 100,000 migrants and climbing to democratic cities across the

country. saying those cities should share texas's immigration influx. one of the arrival cities, washington, dc, where progressive activist hendrik voss flips. >> i think it's very cruel and racist to use migrants as pawns use them as political, as a political stunt. basically, yeah, that's nothing. i want to be connected to. >> so imagine his surprise. >> so this is, this giant spreadsheets when we found boss's name, on a list of donors to bust migrants out of texas. >> and there you are. >> well, $2,000. >> that's your cell phone number, right? yeah. that's definitely you right? >> that's absolutely me. that's my name's that's my phone number. but i definitely didn't give $2,000 to greg abbott's campaign of passing people to dc. >> losses financial records show he did not send texas money. he has no idea how his name ended up on this list of people who donated to the migrant busing in program. >> in

>> fact, cnn found a number of issues with donations collected by the site promoted by the texas governor. but as soon >> as the announcement was made, we were overwhelmed with phone calls, with letters, with requests about people providing buses, people driving buses, people paying for buses. >> and i want to >> tell american where are you can go to help go to border bus dot texas dot job, but it likely will mean that it will be no cost to the state of texas for providing these vessels. >> but as cnn analysis shows, the donations didn't come close abbott is collected only a tiny fraction of his goal and at least a couple of the donations are suspicious besides the mystery of boss's name appearing on the list, the largest donation, $900,000 mysteriously vanished it appears to be a mistake or a hoax the donation website show the tally going from 1.3 million to just over 400,000

when we look through all of the information, it appears that the largest donor, a woman from texas we could not find her. and she had donated $900,000. so that discrepancy is just been quietly corrected by texas. >> it definitely matters. it is unusual to have private donors to a government function. so there aren't always a lot of rules around it. >> no bookbinder is president of a left-leaning citizens for responsibility and ethics in washington. >> whether it's a mistake or whether it's intentional that is potentially misleading the public. >> cnn attempted to reach those supposed $900,000 donor. but the phone number entered into the texas donor site was disconnected and cnn could not find anyone with that name calling me, not accept calls at here so i definitely would want

to know how that happened and how many ended up on that list >> we did reach out to governor abbott's office to find out exactly how losses name, ended up on that lists. the spokesperson did not have a specific response to some of the anomalies that cnn found but we did learn that just because we were given this list with a list of donors and those cell phone numbers. it doesn't mean error and that that money actually went through aaron. >> all right. wow, it's really incredible. i'm calling number not even going through. so when it gives almost $1 million, i mean, it's stunning. counting. thank you very much. i want to talk about this with basil michel, a former executive director of the new york state democratic party, baza mean obviously killings reporting is incredible. i mean, as is incredible and it shows some real issues with, with government exactly the government that gives americans so much anger and outrage these days. the issue at hand though, does remain maire adams in new

york where johnson in chicago they are very critical of joe biden joe biden specifically, i mean, there's no no oh beating around the bush on this in terms of the crisis itself. >> so >> combined get a handle on this before the election. >> it's hard to say whether or not he actually can not going to solve the problem before the election. this is a decades, this problem has been decades in the making his issued more executive orders and immigration than donald trump did he's got to try to find a balance between what the policies during the obama administration, because he was actually critical of that and not engage in what i would call the politics of cruelty, which is what has transpired here. look as a child of immigrants, whether it's on the border or it's in new york, what we're seeing is inhumane. and i think what joe biden can do is find a way to give those democratic or those mayors of governors in order to just close the border, let the courts challenge it, but close it. >> i don't know if that's the exact path that he should take.

what i do think should happen is what mayors and governors already doing, essentially, asking for forgiveness and permission, meaning that give them the space in the room to actually try to solve these problems locally, get them a pass to be able to get jobs, earn an income contributing their taxes, and then find a way after as we move on to try to see if we can solve this problem that's what's happening anyway. so continue to give these mayors and governors and opportunity to do that. but by the way, put congress back to work to get them to find a bipartisan solution which was already on a table. >> when asked you about the other store, i mentioned a moment ago, which was mike pence coming out and saying he will not be will not endorse donald trump. here's exactly how he put it. >> donald trump is pursuing an articulating an agenda that is at odds with the conservative agenda that we governed on during our four years. and that's why i cannot in good conscience endorsed donald trump in this campaign.

>> now, to those who say, well, i mean, come on aaron, how do you think that's anything? i mean, this guy was almost killed. what was that like it was threatened to be exact. he's come out repeatedly against what trump did on january 6, to those who say that, i say, look at mitch mcconnell getting in line look, there's so many other examples of people who no matter what we know, they have publicly said about trump, are now backing him because he's the nominee. what do you say to mike pence who refuses to do it? >> well, in his statement, he said some people should not be surprised by this. i'm a little surprised by it. as he wasn't as forthright as say chris christie or even leader in the campaign, nikki haley and talking about their differences with donald trump and why he's not good for the party. he was he was quiet on that. and for him to understand perfectly. he felt his life was being threatened by donald trump's supporters. i get that. i don't know if any somebody else comes to stand with him in support of his statement against donald trump. that's

what remains to be seen. how many people operationally fall in line with donald, right? >> right. as you point out, it's a lonely island >> chris >> christie are roaming around. >> all right. >> thank you so much, basil. appreciate it. and nex did this button on the back of the pilot let's co*ckpit seat lead to a sudden and violent plunged mid air. boeing is now checking airlines and i check every single one of those seats on that plane. could this really been the cause though? pilot who was flown this plane hundreds of times is out front next. and south dakota governor kristi noem facing questions about her social media posts like this one for shoe insert it's totally built me in search for runnings, separate ones for my cowboy boots to be a headliner was vegas that's what i want to do. >> they had the biggest entertainers in america vegas is always marketed its delta on

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horizontal power control is located in the upper seat back near the head rest guarded by a cover for easier horizontal seat movement when not seated. >> right. so that's exactly how they describe it. now watch this video which shows exactly how that button works. seemingly like when you're adjusting a motorized seat in your car, it's just that instead of being next to you, right? when you might be putting up florida backward it's actually on the back of the seat, back out front. now, tom stevens, he is a retired seven at seven pilot. and tom, i really appreciate your taking the time so now, you've heard what investigators believe happened. you have actually been in that seat hundreds of times, 27,000 more plus hours of flying time. much of that on boeing aircraft. so you've sat in that chair does that explanation add up to you >> well in all the times i've

used that switch, it's entering the co*ckpit is to gain access to the seat more easily. it's it's placed where one can activate it, move the seat back backward, and then that allows for enough room to get in the seat. and then that's the last time that that switch is used after that, there are switches down closer to one seat that moves the switch forward so i want to pull up the pilot's manual again, are the manual for the 787 that we obtained. there's no warning about using the button. i mean, it's just described as a button to move seat back and forth it looks fairly innocuous. i mean, you know, you have a cover guarding it, right >> were you ever briefed on this? it was there any indication given that this could be an issue? >> not at all. in training, i was never i was never told about the switch. i didn't know it existed until i got on the

airplane for the first time it was pointed out since it's a guarded switch, 1 all need do is lift the switch and activate it and it moves the seat back and then the cover closes. and then after that it's no longer in use and at no time, did it ever seem like it would be a problem for us and it would be very difficult to accidentally. raise that guard and activate the switch. >> yeah. i'm also wondering, even if you do, you're describing something which has a function, right? the point is to move the back-and-forth to get in and out of it, not to throw you with great force at some kind of a panel. >> so if this >> is what happened, the pilot pushes it and then he's pushed into the controls by the chair again, sensibly this moving forward and backwards. so it's not like, right. i mean, it's it's moving slowly. i mean would doing this cause this harrowing dropped passengers thrown to the ceiling?

>> it's it's hard to imagine that it would it never came close to that happening to me and all the times that i've been on the airplane, i only used it to move the seat back and then once i was in the seat, it was never used again. no other crew member would ever have touched that switch. there's no reason to, but in no case is that was it going to make contact with the control column since there's accommodations for that on the seat bottom itself. >> all right. so i spoke to a passenger on that plane as named brian jokat. he happened the pilot came back after the plane landed and was talking to passengers. he described the conversation. and here's what he said >> he openly admitted. he said, i lost control of the plane. my gauges just kind of went blank on me and that's when the plane just took a dive. >> so literally he said the gauges went blank

>> yeah, he said they malfunctioned and and did he did he say that made him so he didn't have the ability then to even >> control it, to fly it he said for that brief moment, he couldn't control anything and that's when the plane just did what it did >> so when you hear that, what do you think as a pilot, is there anything you can interpret from that comes as a complete surprise to me. i never had had are the forward panel lose power if it did, i suppose there's the possibility of autopilot disconnection. but that never happened to me. i would imagine that in order for the aircraft to pitch forward to an unusual attitude record, it would require actually pushing on the flight controls. but that never happened to me.

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entire war began. at least 20 people are dead and ukraine says one of the missiles hit as rescuers had come in to try to help the wounded. this comes as protests are breaking out in russia as the sham presidential election is underway. there. >> take a look at this as video >> inside a polling station. this is a fire hur said they're raging right next to a ballot box and near st. petersburg, a woman launching a molotov co*cktail at the front door of a polling station. and in moscow, a woman detained after dumping green dye into a ballot box, destroying the votes inside. cnn chief national security analysts jim sciutto, who has been covering this part of the world for years is with me also of course, jim has a new book, the return of great powers. and jim speaking of great powers, it is no secret that putin will be elected to an unprecedented fifth term. and you have some new reporting tonight about his plans once the election is over, what have you learned? >> that's right. i'm told by senior us military officials that the us assessment is that putin will feel emboldened by

this election. and as you correctly describe a sham election in bolden to expand his war in ukraine even further, including the possibility of another mobilization of military age, menn in russia to fight in the war in ukraine and adding into his confidence in the view of us intelligence, aaron, are increasing delays here in this country over us military aid to ukraine and public differences in this country over that. and in europe as well, he draws confidence from that. >> so emboldened and broadening war the mobilization point obviously crucial and you've got some new reporting. jim, also in your new book about fears of a second trump presidency and those fears are coming from the people who know them boast best, right? the people who were in the room who were closest to him the first time around, what have you learned from them? >> that's right. the people who served him at the highest levels and this is not my word,

their word catastrophic is how they describe it this from general john kelly who have his course, chief of staff, to trump in his first administration, he said to me, a second term with him, trump, particularly when he would not be worrying about reelection it would be fundamentally a catastrophe for us. he is not alone. i also spoke to john bolton, who of course, was his national security advisor, longtime, lifetime lifelong republican. he said, i just don't think he has enough of a brain. again, his words direct code quote to have an articulated view on us china policy because he thinks everything through the prism of how does this benefit donald trump nato would be in real jeopardy. i think he would try to get out they say that he will reengineer america's relationships with its adversaries. china, russia friendlier and also walk away from decades old partnerships, alliances with nato also, south korea, japan, us allies in

asia, and they've told me he has no interest in a second term of defending taiwan from a potential us invasion and chinese invasion rather, it'd be a mark term it would be it would be seismic. >> all right. jim sciutto. thank you so much. >> thank you. okay. to see you >> and china is watching the possibility of a second trump presidency tonight, the country laser-focused on the election and will ripley is outfront with this report. >> in the chinese capital, beijing? no shortage of people sounding off about donald trump. >> i think trump will probably get elected because he's pretty good, but it out, pull off, what if trump were to be elected? >> you will >> undermine us even more through economic blockades are terrorists. or he could instigate waters. >> do you buy them publicly? >> the chinese government is playing neutral, criticizing the us. china policies of former president trump and current president joe biden

state media mocking the messiness of american democracy, political chaos, deep division on chinese social media, comments like these, or these two old guys, all they've got left old against old. they both are tough on china. we need to speed up our preparation for battle. and this prediction, trump is going to be back remember six years ago when then president trump traveled to beijing, chinese leader xi jinping pulled out all the stops the lavish state banquet inside the forbidden city of first for any us president since 1949, the founding of communist china, china's rulers have historically preferred leaders. they can manipulate through personal relationships and flattery trump's ego driven diplomacy seemed at the time like a perfect match. >> i think we're going to do tremendous things for both china and for the united states. >> then came the trade war.

trump's tariffs and trade barriers sense bolstered by president biden still battering beijing's economy. now i'm says us tariffs on chinese goods will skyrocket to 60% or higher if he wins a second term china's top diplomat, wang yi, voicing concerns over those us trade and tech controls warning of b will during levels of unfathomable obs certainty. but experts say some aspects of trump's foreign policy actually benefit china's strategic interests. his doubts about traditional american alliances, like nato, admiration for strong menn, like russia's vladimir putin, and north korea's kim jong un if i were a chinese leader or in the chinese leadership, i won't be worried about trump's presidency >> simply because trump is just less predictable that unpredictability on display

this week, trump abruptly reversed his hardline stance on tiktok of posing a box i partisan bill that would essentially banned the chinese-owned app in the us. there are a lot of people on tiktok that love it there are a lot of young kids on tiktok who will go crazy without it, >> trump himself tried to ban tiktok in 2020, citing a national security threat. you turns like this could inject even more instability in a fraught us-china relationship >> the >> bottom line is essentially the china's sees trump as pretty transactional, which could be good for them, could be bad for them. they've kind of been on both ends of that aaron here and taiwan. they're very diplomatic about it. they say whether it's trump or biden, they're going to have support of the united states, but clearly there is some concern, albeit under the surface, that president biden has said four times he would defend taiwan if china made a move. trump has not. one said whether he would defend taiwan.

also said he hadn't, but he criticized taiwan about chips and a lot of other things. so certainly a lot to watch out here. >> certainly so and wonder if taiwan saying they would both defend taiwan with us, whether that's the case or not. all right. well, on this early saturday morning and taipei, thank you so much. next the south dakota governor, south dakota governor kristi noem now selling shoe inserts from her official twitter account she's facing a lawsuit from pushing a cosmetic dentistry firm. so what's it about >> is feeling dry tired, stressed, get a boost of moisture with bio true hydration boost i drops for comfort throughout the day. they're preservative-free, gentle, and maybe with naturally inspired ingredients. stay bio true to your eyes. >> the only godaddy arrow helps you get your business online and minutes with the power of ai, with the perfect name, great global and a beautiful website. just start with the domain, a few clicks and you're in business make now the future

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running separate ones for my cowboy boots, posting another video to her social media accounts, this time talking up custom insults created for her by a south dakota would a business. >> i'm going to be perfect. i'm going to be like bionic woman. no the new video >> coming just two days after this flashy five-minute informational style testimonial about a company that was not even based in her state with the team here, was remarkable and finally gave me a smile now that i can be proud of lavish praise of her dental work done by a houston area cosmetic dentistry firm, posted to the governor's official social media accounts. >> they chose the team here at smile texas because they're the best a consumer advocacy group calling foul, alleging that she's acting like a part-time social media influencer and slapping her with a civil lawsuit filed in a superior court in dc alleging her post is breaking consumer protection

laws, promoting medical tourism with the governor, potentially cashing in the lawsuit alleging she likely either received free dental care and exchange for this advertisem*nt, discounted dental care in exchange for this advertisem*nt or she was paid and received free dental care for the advertisem*nt. unfortunately, noem did not mark this as an ad or advertisem*nt when posting. so she is participating in an unfair and deceptive practice. cnn has reached out to the governor's office and smile texas, asking about any financial agreement and to the governor's office about why she sought treatment out-of states. neither have responded. in south dakota. the video also leaving many puzzled a state senator calling the video strange and possibly unethical, asking for a formal inquiry. >> she paid for this dental procedure or did she agree to store in this infomercial and partial or full payment and if

so, was this unethical or illegal based on south dakota statue? >> all this comes as no ms being considered as a vice presidential candidate for donald trump and kristi noem as well. >> i should say >> are they all on your shortlist? >> trump publicly and privately telling people she is on his potential vp shortlist with the two meeting privately, a mar-a-lago golf, just last month >> the way everything i can to help him win and save this country. >> and in south dakota, there's not yet a formal inquiry looking into all this opened up just yet, the democratic state senator who is co-chair of the committee, who would eventually potentially handle this, said he intends to bring this up at the next meeting in july erin. >> all right. sunlen, thank you very much. thanks so much to all of you for being with us this hour. we'll see you on monday, ac30 60 starts now

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